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(Transcribed by TurboScribe. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) Can I put it this out?

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Yeah.

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There are trust to

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me to be able to myself is their

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number first mistake.

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Join us now as the investigative journalist Jeremy

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Corbel.

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Good to see you.

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Corbel is an investigative journalist who helped obtain

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and released the DoD footage of UFOs and

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made contact with this DoD whistleblower as far

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back as 14 months ago.

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The front lines of UFO disclosure.

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It is scary if that's true Joe.

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I think you guys are.

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investigative filmmaker Jeremy Corbel got a shout out

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during the hearing for attending UAP videos and

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releasing them to the public.

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The images obtained by Jeremy Corbel, the Pentagon

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confirming the images are being reviewed by a

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task force.

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The man who's been pushing for better transparency,

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Mr. Jeremy Corbel.

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It's everywhere as of late and now the

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government's starting and I'm like what's going on

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today exists.

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I also wanted to thank the President Corbel

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for writing these documents and access to some

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whistleblowers.

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The footage is incredible.

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The United States government has gathered a great

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deal of information about UAPs over many decades.

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Biologics came for some of these recoveries.

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Were they, I guess, human or non-human

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biologics?

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Non-human and that was the assessment of

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people with direct knowledge on the program I

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talked to that are currently still in the

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program.

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And Jeremy Corbel played a big role in

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bringing these questions to the public.

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If he looks familiar, that's because he was

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sitting behind Braver, Grush and Graves today in

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that testimony.

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Thanks for having me, man.

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It's the duty of journalism to investigate the

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unexplained, not explain the uninvestigated.

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Slowly the U.S. government has acknowledged that

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they're real.

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Corbel released these videos.

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What else is weird is Jeremy Corbel said

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a bunch of people are going to start

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saying there's a mothership coming to Earth and

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don't believe him.

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Remember he was saying that?

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Somehow he does have inside cons, but if

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he says too much, he puts his whole

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life in danger.

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We've talked to you so many times over

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the years.

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You're one of the world's leading experts in

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UAPs and UFOs.

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It's the most unconventional figure in this space

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covered in tattoos, a former martial artist, a

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former artist, and yet he's somehow the one

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in the know, standing at the center of

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it all.

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I've been holding a secret for about 11

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years.

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You know, absolute proof beyond any reasonable doubt.

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UFOs are real.

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They're threatening the life of a journalist.

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Yes, you are.

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Why?

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Why?

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Why?

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Why you waited for 11 years?

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Why didn't you do this that year?

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I needed to verify it myself.

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George and I will be briefing eight Congress

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people on video.

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I'm telling you this over the phone, so

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any intelligence agency that has a Pfizer on

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my phone, which my lawyer is sure they

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do, knows that I am having that meeting

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and now a lot of people know

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about

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it.

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All right.

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If you look in the 70s and 80s

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with the CIA, they used to have reporters

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on their payroll.

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They don't respect anybody.

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If you do something that kisses them all,

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they're not going to come after you, not

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only you, they're going to come after your

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family.

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And you've seen that happen?

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Yes.

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It's one of those things where if you

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become a liability, if you really have stuff

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that is that sensitive, that you cannot release,

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you're relying on your connection as a journalist,

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they're going to treat you to the dogs.

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I've been having a very surreal series of

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days, yeah.

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Hey, thanks so much, man.

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I appreciate it.

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Of course.

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The daily reality of how often do I

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get contacted, government whistleblowers or just the average

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person that says, what the fuck is that

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I just saw?

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You know, launch a star link or something

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like that, a rocket, nonstop.

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I don't think there was any fuckery, but

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I need you to confirm.

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So this is how it came.

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How do you know what to go after?

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I see original Polaroid, holy shit.

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And where is this from?

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It's from Los Angeles National Laboratory.

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Your dad died, right?

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He passed away about a month ago.

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I'm sorry to hear that.

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My dad died, too.

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What was your dad's position and why do

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we find this interesting?

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He was in charge of all computer and

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cyber security for the entire laboratory.

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So I sent you some official documents from

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the lab that talk about meetings they had

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about atmosphere anomalies.

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There's also some information in there about Russian

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sightings.

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I recognized some of the names because I

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know a lot of these motherfuckers.

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I had no idea what my father did.

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He never discussed his job.

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Why are you nervous?

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Just tell me from legit why you're nervous.

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I can tell you're nervous.

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I don't belong in this world, but here

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I am.

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The UFO world?

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I don't belong in this world.

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I'm like the least qualified person on planet

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Earth, but I thank you for your trust

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because the one thing I am is I

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am worthy of your trust.

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I don't know.

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I'm going to relax though because I feel

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really uptight right now.

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It's a crazy fucking week.

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He was the most curious kid ever.

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Then I heard that he was listening to

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George Knapp.

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Hello and welcome to One of the Records.

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About nine months ago we invited former state

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senate candidate John Lear to appear on this

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program to talk not about politics but about

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UFOs.

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George Knapp, he's a journalist who broke the

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story about Area 51 several years ago.

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Thank you both for being here.

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That just weaponized his curiosity.

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Well, I did say, Jeremy, maybe you need

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to find another career.

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I said that to him and he's one.

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Yeah, right?

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He knows way too much.

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I'm afraid he's going to die.

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There is a hit out on him.

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That's what I was told.

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And he's now going to be able to

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protect himself.

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Am I an investigative journalist?

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I'm a husband?

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I'm a daddy to my doggies?

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Really my business is apartments and properties.

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This is the glorious life of a UFO

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hunter.

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There's the maintenance and the renting.

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This is how we make our money.

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So it's like the UFO thing for me

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is out of passion and because I love

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it, these are solvable problems compared to the

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UFO thing.

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The UFO thing unimaginably difficult.

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I don't know what to say about it.

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How does somebody get so deep into the

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UFO subject?

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To really understand the full picture, I'm going

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to need to start where it all began.

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Tissue is a deep area.

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Yeah, stop.

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I'm not going to fucking hate it.

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Do you need to go see Sensei Jeremy

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Corkell?

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Martial athletics, I sense it nine years old.

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You know, first time I was able to

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punch somebody in the face and not get

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in trouble for it.

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I was in severe pains, what you'd call

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growing pains, but I had my hips x

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-ray.

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They're thinking about coming and cutting out the

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bursa.

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I mean, all sorts of crazy stuff.

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I was also very inflexible because of this.

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I have ADD and a decoding disability that

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makes it very difficult sometimes for me to

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focus and concentrate.

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Or at least you're really used to it.

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I'm highly dyslexic.

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I have one of the highest levels of

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dyslexia.

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Needless to say, growing up was a challenge,

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okay?

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But what I realized is obstacles are opportunities.

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I could see where I was going.

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All these schools, more money than I could

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ever spend realistically as a young kid.

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So I had everything and I was just

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curious.

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Is it possible there's anything else for me,

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my spirit, like what I'm to do, and

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goddamn did life answer.

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So I was in Nepal.

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I was like, where's the easiest place to

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keep moving, to keep going?

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I was like, okay, I'm going to go

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to India.

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When I started getting sick, I thought I

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had bronchitis or something, you know, take antibiotic.

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I remember calling my mom and dad and

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telling them something isn't right.

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Like, I'm coming home.

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He sort of blows things off like, oh,

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it's no problem.

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I'm not stressed.

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I can handle it, but as a mom,

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I had contracted valley fever, but it had

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become so corrosive in my body untreated because

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I was overseas.

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It had fucked up my kidneys, my liver,

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my heart, my lungs, but it was also

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in my bloodstream.

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Being a martial athlete, that was my entire

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identity.

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When your identity is so wrapped up into

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something and then you don't have that animal,

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you can't do that anymore.

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You feel like you die.

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I started taking apart computers, putting them back

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together again, just something I could do mentally.

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An exhibit honoring Afro Sharon Tate was on

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display in Culver City.

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It was a symbol of freedom and she

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was a symbol of love.

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I don't even know how that happened.

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Total accidental artists.

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Whole career was because of an illness, you

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know?

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And I was having testing done like every

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three days for blood, so they always took

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it and looked really beautiful.

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It was red, you know?

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And so then they gave me, I said,

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well, that's beautiful.

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I need that for my work.

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And so then they gave me, I have

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loads of it.

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I got a camera for my wedding.

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I started practicing on my honeymoon.

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Like, how to use it.

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He did those black and whites out there

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and that's when I started learning about where

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his brain was going.

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The first person that I ever pointed a

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camera at and was like, oh fuck, it's

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like a Rubik's cube.

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You know, I gotta get this person talking.

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It was really hard was John Lear.

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In more than five years since we've been

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hosting these programs, no guest has inspired such

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a widespread and enduring audience response as has

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John Lear, son of the famed aviation pioneer,

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and the world-class pilot in his own

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right.

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That was approached by a government theoretical physicist

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who employed by the government, who works on

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his answers up at room like, he has

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seen the aliens, he is tired of the

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cover up.

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John Lear, people know about him because his

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father was the inventor of the Lear jet,

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eight track stereo.

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This is a guy that had some credibility

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in some ways publicly.

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He was the person that you want to

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be able to interview and talk with about

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this phenomenon.

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I am so hungry and curious to know

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what I don't know.

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I mean, it's like a sickness, bro.

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It's like, it's a sickness, you know, like

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my curiosity.

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It's a sickness.

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The government has retrieved between 10 and 15

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lateral flying saushers, three of which have been

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in perfect condition, one of which they tried

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to fly.

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They have between 30 and 50 alien bodies

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in cryogenic story.

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It's not about your foes to me.

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You know, what got me interested?

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Well, I always point to what I heard

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Bob Lazar on the radio.

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Well, there's several, actually, nine flying saushers flying

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discs that are out there of extraterrestrial origin.

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I was a 13 year old idiot kid,

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but that really sparked me.

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But, you know, I put that down.

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I didn't devote my life to it from

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there.

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Bob Lazar is the reason why you know

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about Area 51 and you know about UFOs

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and popular culture.

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The original, I guess, whistleblower about the UFO

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thing.

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He says he was hired to work at

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an area called S4, which is a few

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miles south of Grum Lake.

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At S4, he says, are flying saushers and

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other working examples of technology that is seemingly

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beyond human capabilities.

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The live interview with the shadowy dentist drew

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international attention.

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His real name is Robert Lazar.

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The choice of dentists was an inside joke.

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He says that's the name of his superior

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at Grum Lake.

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It wasn't a joke to dentists.

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Why did I go for John?

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Probably because, you know, in this part of

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my brain, I knew that the Bob Lazar

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story was somehow filtered through Lear.

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That's my driveway.

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That's Bob.

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I remember trying to get a hold of

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Lear for over a year.

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Hi, Mr. John Lear.

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I'm not at home right now, but please

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leave the message and I'll get right back

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to you.

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Thanks.

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But I remember at one point, I just

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cold called his phone and he picked up.

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I couldn't believe it.

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And then how open he was with me.

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So I just saw this like window, you

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know, there he is.

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And I said, hey, man, I want to

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learn about UFOs.

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Come on over, Jeremy.

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What the hell?

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You know, what's this crazy person?

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He doesn't know me.

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And I didn't even really tell him I

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was a filmmaker because I wasn't a filmmaker

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at the time.

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So I said, cool.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I want to bring, you know, a camera

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and kind of documents into what you're saying.

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And I think he was just hungry for

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attention.

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He said, come on over.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Come to Vegas.

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Lost Vegas in Nevada.

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Come on over.

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I'm like, OK.

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Hey, John.

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I'm out at the gate.

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And then

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of course when I got there, he wouldn't

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say shit to me.

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So like at the time he wasn't supposed

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to smoke and drink and all that stuff,

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he always man.

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He made me get like ghosts, get him

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cigars and sneak them in the house.

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All the stuff his wife didn't want to

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have.

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Jeremy, sneak me in a five pack of

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Philly Titans.

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You can get him at Walgreens.

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And I wasn't getting shit from him unless

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I brought the cigars, you know.

404
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Being 13 years old, I was so influenced

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by this thought that there's a prolific, intelligent

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life.

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Technologically advanced everywhere.

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That's how I heard a John here.

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I've no fucking idea where this is going.

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But my journey now is to tell the

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real story, the real message.

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It's the start of a new journey in

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my life.

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He was so passionate about it.

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I was happy for him.

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I didn't think he would make any money

417
00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,540
having that as a career.

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I hope it answers questions and I hope

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it gives me a million others.

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His toilet would be broken and it's like

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ghost flushing and I can hear the sound

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00:18:46,980 --> 00:18:47,540
in my footage.

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So I go and fix the ghost flush

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and the toilet because I've done it a

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billion times because of my history of maintenance

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and property and all this stuff.

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And once he realized that I could do

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that, game over man.

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I'm like the handyman at his house.

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And then computers, forget about it.

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The whole thing and this just has the

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contacts.

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John there wouldn't tell me shit about UFOs.

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00:19:16,900 --> 00:19:19,100
But once he started, it was years, man.

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00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,140
Just telling me everything.

436
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The moon was constructed in Jupiter about 20

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billion years ago.

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And it was towed to Earth sometime between

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that 20 billion years and now.

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There's been many many civilizations on the Earth.

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One of the most advanced civilizations is buried

442
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under the Sahara Desert.

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They were erased and then they grow again.

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They were erased.

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This is where you get all these stories

446
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,740
about the civilizations like Atlantis and Lemuris.

447
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:56,500
Anyway, the moon is a place for the

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guards to be sure that we don't escape

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00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:00,940
or don't get away.

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00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,160
While we're on Earth, we're touring our souls.

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This is John Lear from the Lear Family.

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00:20:07,380 --> 00:20:09,760
And the guy had this personal story that's

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00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,060
so wild and where did he end up?

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00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,600
Who's imprisoning us?

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00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:14,140
Those guys.

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00:20:14,540 --> 00:20:17,220
The bad aliens, they do interfere with our

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lives.

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00:20:17,580 --> 00:20:18,460
As a matter of fact, they're pretty much

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in control of Earth right now.

460
00:20:20,340 --> 00:20:23,840
There was a table of scientists there.

461
00:20:26,380 --> 00:20:27,420
Oh, thanks, darling.

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00:20:27,700 --> 00:20:28,940
I had to make it a little healthier

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for the kids.

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Because I had to put chicken on it.

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Do you mean anything to drink honey?

466
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What?

467
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,260
You mean anything to drink, you guys?

468
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,000
No, this is fantastic, but I could have

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a glass of water.

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00:20:41,180 --> 00:20:44,740
Well, John Lear was a real crazy, conspiracy

471
00:20:44,740 --> 00:20:45,400
guy.

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But he was, Jeremy was fascinated with him.

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With John, it wasn't so much what was

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true.

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How did this guy come to believe these

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things that are so extraordinary or wild, right?

477
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Yeah, the guy I was talking to here

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helped build the pyramids.

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And he helped build the pyramids back in

480
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the day?

481
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Yeah, these are gods.

482
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:07,480
How did he do that?

483
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,560
The aliens are gods demons or something.

484
00:21:13,460 --> 00:21:16,560
I was just kind of documenting this human

485
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being that had these ideas that were so

486
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far out there.

487
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We had landed on the moon before.

488
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He said six times, but just not with

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people?

490
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No, we never landed on the moon.

491
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Did I say that?

492
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As far as Dr. Mitchell and whether he

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believes or not that he went to the

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moon.

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Lift off.

496
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We have lift off with Apollo 14, three

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minutes past the hour.

498
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This is very tough because Dr. Mitchell is

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a hero.

500
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He participated in that program.

501
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,960
He's going to be very irritated to know

502
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that he's been the victim of mind control.

503
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,780
Well, he didn't introduce me to Dr. Mitchell.

504
00:22:06,260 --> 00:22:07,560
He more or less challenged me.

505
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Ladies, you have a photo director and sent

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you to the staff of the group of

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the Dean of the Vermont Partners folks.

508
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Dr. Alvin Wayne is joined by Captain Edgar

509
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Mitchell and Apollo 14, and pilot.

510
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This is the sixth person to ever walk

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on the moon.

512
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Why do you think that there's people that

513
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no matter how much proof you give them?

514
00:22:46,380 --> 00:22:49,500
They don't want to believe that you walked

515
00:22:49,500 --> 00:22:50,000
on the moon.

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Bob's friend, a guy named John, John Lear,

517
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he might have heard of him before.

518
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He's the son of the guy that invented

519
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the Learjet.

520
00:22:58,060 --> 00:22:58,540
I know, I know.

521
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It was one of those people that just

522
00:23:00,140 --> 00:23:03,200
doesn't buy NASA's story about the moon landings.

523
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,780
I was not aware that that was Lear's

524
00:23:05,780 --> 00:23:09,960
attitude, and I'm sure to hear that.

525
00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:13,520
I know his father quite well, and that

526
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,620
makes no sense to me.

527
00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:18,320
That's not why I was there.

528
00:23:18,860 --> 00:23:20,760
I was there to talk to Dr. Edgar

529
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,460
Mitchell because he was born in Roswell in

530
00:23:22,460 --> 00:23:22,920
New Mexico.

531
00:23:23,340 --> 00:23:25,000
People talked with him without a filter.

532
00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:29,460
Everybody involved with the Roswell alleged UFO crash.

533
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,940
They're going to, of course, talk to an

534
00:23:31,940 --> 00:23:33,560
astronaut who walked on the moon.

535
00:23:33,820 --> 00:23:35,320
I grew up near Roswell in New Mexico.

536
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,080
I was on my way off to college

537
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,800
when the so-called Roswell incident took place

538
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:42,600
in 1947.

539
00:23:43,380 --> 00:23:46,020
He knows everybody from when he was born

540
00:23:46,020 --> 00:23:46,920
and raised there.

541
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,100
Several of the people come to my sleeve

542
00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:50,400
and say, can we talk about?

543
00:23:50,740 --> 00:23:53,520
They said, well, the UFO idea, what it

544
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,180
turns out, these people were all descendants of

545
00:23:57,180 --> 00:23:58,520
what I call old-timers.

546
00:23:58,860 --> 00:24:01,940
For example, the descendants of the undertaker who

547
00:24:01,940 --> 00:24:06,180
had provided small coffins out to the military

548
00:24:06,180 --> 00:24:10,080
to carry the bodies of the agencies to

549
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:11,140
AT's.

550
00:24:11,140 --> 00:24:12,860
That if you're an astronaut and you start

551
00:24:12,860 --> 00:24:15,520
knocking on doors of government and start talking

552
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,520
to people, they're going to trust you.

553
00:24:16,580 --> 00:24:19,120
So I knew that he had insight into

554
00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:21,060
the UFO thing that he had not been

555
00:24:21,060 --> 00:24:21,700
saying publicly.

556
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,920
I knew he did, but I wanted to

557
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,380
find out how much of that is belief

558
00:24:25,380 --> 00:24:28,340
and how much of that is very specifically

559
00:24:28,340 --> 00:24:30,700
the knowledge that he had that other people

560
00:24:30,700 --> 00:24:30,980
didn't.

561
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,080
So that's why I was there.

562
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,060
I did not give a fuck about the

563
00:24:34,060 --> 00:24:34,220
moon.

564
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,960
I did take this to the Pentagon a

565
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,780
few years later, and we did get an

566
00:24:40,780 --> 00:24:45,340
interview with the intelligence officer, the Joint Chiefs

567
00:24:45,340 --> 00:24:45,760
of Staff.

568
00:24:46,140 --> 00:24:47,340
It's just not just government.

569
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,620
It's not just military.

570
00:24:49,700 --> 00:24:52,180
It appears to be a cabal, President Eisenhower

571
00:24:52,180 --> 00:24:56,340
on his retirement, warned against the military industrial

572
00:24:56,340 --> 00:24:56,900
complex.

573
00:24:56,900 --> 00:25:01,000
So what we have here likely is a

574
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:06,060
cabal of the military industrial complex, worldwide, that

575
00:25:06,060 --> 00:25:09,940
has been able to control this thing and

576
00:25:09,940 --> 00:25:11,540
hold it for their own purposes.

577
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,100
There's no question that David has very strongly

578
00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:16,900
been here and are here.

579
00:25:17,140 --> 00:25:18,840
Six men to walk on the moon, right?

580
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,280
Yeah, that's a pretty cool friend to have,

581
00:25:21,420 --> 00:25:21,560
man.

582
00:25:21,740 --> 00:25:22,540
He knew some people.

583
00:25:22,740 --> 00:25:24,260
He could connect me with people.

584
00:25:24,260 --> 00:25:25,260
That was really cool.

585
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,560
I learned a lot from him, not just

586
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,400
from him, but some of the people he

587
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,460
led me to speak with.

588
00:25:29,820 --> 00:25:31,020
My name is John Alexander.

589
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,820
I spent 30-some euros on the military.

590
00:25:35,140 --> 00:25:36,420
I went from private to Colonel.

591
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,760
My second career was Los Alamos National Laboratory.

592
00:25:40,580 --> 00:25:41,880
I worked in aerospace.

593
00:25:42,540 --> 00:25:44,620
While in the military, I created an ad

594
00:25:44,620 --> 00:25:47,800
hoc group on UFOs and studied it subject

595
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:48,580
intentionally.

596
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:49,820
It was top secret.

597
00:25:49,820 --> 00:25:52,280
And what you know is a both top

598
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:53,020
secret classes.

599
00:25:53,620 --> 00:25:55,700
We had people from all of the services,

600
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,820
the intelligence community, and aerospace industry.

601
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,620
What we found was not at all what

602
00:26:01,620 --> 00:26:02,060
we anticipated.

603
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,080
What does that mean?

604
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,780
Every agency was interested.

605
00:26:07,180 --> 00:26:08,740
Every agency knew the stories.

606
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,580
Everybody thought somebody else was doing it.

607
00:26:12,020 --> 00:26:13,840
UFOs are real, and I mean by that,

608
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,160
a very hard craft, a trans-physical reality

609
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,200
as we know it.

610
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,100
Whatever this is, is far more complex than

611
00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:23,000
we ever anticipated.

612
00:26:23,780 --> 00:26:26,020
We're not even asking the right questions yet.

613
00:26:26,460 --> 00:26:28,700
Start a sentence with John Lear is.

614
00:26:29,580 --> 00:26:32,120
Oh, John Lear is a very interesting and

615
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:33,180
colorful character.

616
00:26:33,660 --> 00:26:38,520
Unfortunately, we violently disagree on notions of reality.

617
00:26:39,540 --> 00:26:42,300
Certainly, I firmly believe that we did put

618
00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:42,980
him on the moon.

619
00:26:42,980 --> 00:26:46,100
You guys seem to have, you know, some

620
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:50,720
sort of respect for one another despite the

621
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,320
fact that, you know, he took it totally

622
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:53,740
crazy.

623
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:54,940
Yeah, well, let's understand.

624
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,200
I mean, his history with the United States,

625
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,560
Ireland, and we both were in Southeast Asia.

626
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,640
Certainly respect those kind of adventures that the

627
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,120
guy really had quite an exotic past.

628
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:11,040
Do you think he would intentionally lead me

629
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,360
the wrong way just for his own kind

630
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:14,580
of pleasure or?

631
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:15,920
I have no idea.

632
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,500
I mean, you're asking about his motive.

633
00:27:17,820 --> 00:27:21,040
I have no idea or way to discern

634
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,940
that.

635
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:25,800
Free this.

636
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,220
I think they went to them.

637
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,540
Because they got on this big ass rocket.

638
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,120
He shot it up in the air.

639
00:27:33,620 --> 00:27:35,340
You think they could have been fake?

640
00:27:35,340 --> 00:27:36,120
No.

641
00:27:38,820 --> 00:27:42,060
Do you ever ask yourself, like, are you

642
00:27:42,060 --> 00:27:42,760
just nuts?

643
00:27:44,460 --> 00:27:45,320
Am I just nuts?

644
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,140
Yeah, do you ever ask yourself sometimes?

645
00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:48,640
Am I just nuts?

646
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:49,680
No.

647
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:51,660
I know this is all real.

648
00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:52,660
That's where I'm at.

649
00:27:53,420 --> 00:27:56,380
And if I'm not too bad, it's a

650
00:27:56,380 --> 00:27:57,400
great ride, you know.

651
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,560
It was a constant barrage.

652
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,820
And to this day, a lot of it

653
00:28:02,820 --> 00:28:03,360
was bullshit.

654
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,000
It doesn't mean he didn't believe it.

655
00:28:06,420 --> 00:28:07,160
You know, he believed it.

656
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,380
You say this as if you've seen it.

657
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,500
So, how do you know?

658
00:28:11,780 --> 00:28:14,280
About seven years ago, I was on abovetopsecret

659
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,820
.com, and a guy started to post.

660
00:28:17,140 --> 00:28:18,020
His name was Sleeper.

661
00:28:18,380 --> 00:28:21,660
Talking about being in the army and having

662
00:28:21,660 --> 00:28:24,080
been picked up by aliens and taken all

663
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:24,960
over the universe.

664
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,560
He's talking about this guy, this guy that's

665
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,960
like a UFO Jesus.

666
00:28:29,220 --> 00:28:30,400
I mean, some weird guy.

667
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,400
And like you said, he met the dude

668
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:33,600
online.

669
00:28:34,020 --> 00:28:34,720
The dude wrote some books.

670
00:28:34,980 --> 00:28:37,820
Well, he was brought here to Earth in

671
00:28:37,820 --> 00:28:38,360
1952.

672
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,480
The main problem is to get out of

673
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,800
here this prison planet.

674
00:28:44,620 --> 00:28:48,240
And according to Sleeper, I'm dying.

675
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,400
But when he says little angels like John

676
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,660
get passed right on through without judgment.

677
00:28:56,660 --> 00:28:58,480
That's pretty strong.

678
00:28:59,380 --> 00:29:01,020
And did you see the part yet where

679
00:29:01,020 --> 00:29:03,520
I fucking made them meet face to face?

680
00:29:08,380 --> 00:29:12,320
I guess, you know, proceeding with John, I

681
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,080
was wondering if at your convenience, if you

682
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,800
have interest, you know, to meet him.

683
00:29:19,220 --> 00:29:23,900
Because as far as for his ideas, as

684
00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:25,640
I've said, you've played such a pivotal role

685
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,320
in his understanding.

686
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:27,700
He has such an admiration.

687
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,820
It seems like it goes both ways.

688
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,360
Any month, any time.

689
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,820
You know, just for a couple days, a

690
00:29:33,820 --> 00:29:36,260
weekend, you know, I could, you know, essentially

691
00:29:36,260 --> 00:29:37,640
bring you out to Vegas.

692
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:57,280
Do you

693
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:57,760
want to do it over?